Transcript
of a discussion on how digital
business transformation and networks are propelling women into more leadership
roles.
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Dana Gardner: Hello, and
welcome to a special BriefingsDirect podcast coming to you from the recent 2017 SAP Ariba LIVE conference in Las Vegas.
I’m
Dana Gardner, Principal
Analyst at Interarbor
Solutions, your host as we explore the latest in
collaborative commerce and learn how innovative companies are tapping into the
networked economy.
Our
next digital business insights panel discussion focuses on the evolving role of
women in business leadership. We’ll focus on relationships and changes in business
leadership requirements as a result of pervasive business networks.
To
learn more about the transformation of talent management strategies as a result
of digital business and innovation, please join me in welcoming our guests,
Alicia Tillman, Chief
Marketing Officer at SAP Ariba.
Alicia Tillman: Hi, Dana. How are you?
Gardner: I’m great.
Good to have you with us. We’re also
here with Lisa Skeete
Tatum, Co-founder and CEO of Landit in New
York. Hello, Lisa.
Lisa Skeete Tatum: Hi, Dana. Hi, Alicia. Great to be
here.
Gardner: Alicia, looking at a confluence of trends, we have the rise of business
networks and we have an advancing number of women in business leadership roles.
Do they have anything to do with one another? What's the relationship?
Tillman |
There
is as much networking and influence that happens in a digital network as does from meeting somebody at an event,
conference or forum. It has really taken off in the recent years as being a way
to connect quickly and broadly -- across geographies and industries. There is
nothing that brings you speed like a network, and that’s why I think there is such
a strong correlation to how digital networking has taken off -- and what a true
technical network platform can allow.
Gardner: When people first
hear “business networks,” they might think about transactions and applications
talking to applications. But, as you say, this has become much broader in the
last few years; business networks are really about social interactions, collaboration,
and even joining companies culturally.
How
has that been going? Has this been something that’s been powerful and
beneficial to companies?
Tillman: It’s
incredibly powerful and beneficial. If you think about how buying habits are
these days, buyers are very particular about the goods that they are interested
in, and, frankly, the people that they source from.
Skeete Tatum |
A
network allows for that; the SAP Ariba Network certainly allows for that, as we
can match suppliers directly with what those incredibly diverse buyer needs are
in today’s environment.
Gardner: Lisa, we just
heard from Alicia about how it's more important that companies have a
relationship with one another and that they actually look for culture and
character in new ways. Tell us about Landit, and how you're viewing this idea
of business networks changing the way people relate to their companies and even
each other?
Skeete
Tatum: Our
goal at Landit is to democratize career success for women around the globe. We
have created a technology platform that not only increases the success and
engagement of women in the workplace, but it also enables companies in this new
environment to attract, develop, and retain high-potential diverse talent.
Our goal at Landit is to democratize career success for women around the globe.
We
do that by providing each woman with the personalized playbook in the spirit of
one-size-fits-one. That empowers them with the access to the tools, the
resources, the know-how, and, yes, the human connections that they need to more
successfully navigate their paths.
It’s
really in response to the millions of women who will find themselves at an
inflection point; whether they are in a company that they love but are just
trying to figure out how to more successfully navigate there, or they may be feeling
a little stuck and are not sure how to get out. The challenge is: “I am
motivated, I have the skills, I just don’t know where to start.”
We
have really focused on knitting what we believe are those key elements together
-- leveraged by technology that actually guides them. But we find that
companies in this new environment are often overwhelmed and trying to figure
out a way to manage this new diverse workforce in this era of connectedness. So
we give them a turnkey, one-size-fits-one solution, too.
As
Alicia mentioned, in this next stage of collaborative businesses, there are
really two things. One, we are more networked and more visible than ever
before, which is great, because it’s created more opportunities and flexibility
than we have seen -- not to mention more access. However, those opportunities
are highly dependent on how someone showcases their value, their contribution, and
their credibility, which makes it even more important to cultivate not only
your brand and your network. It goes beyond just individual capabilities of getting
at what is the sponsorship in the support of a strong network.
The
second thing I would say, that Alicia also mentioned, is that today’s business
environment -- which is more global, more diverse in its tapestry -- requires
businesses to create an environment where everyone feels valued. People need to
feel like they can bring the full measure of their talent and passion to the
workplace. Companies want amazing talent to find a place at their company.
Gardner: If I’m at a company
looking to be more diverse, how would I use Landit to accomplish that? Also, if
I were an individual looking to get into the type of company that I want to be
involved with, how would I use Landit?
Connecting supply and demand for talent
Skeete Tatum: As an individual, when you come on to
Landit, we actually give you one of the key ingredients for success. Because we
often don’t know what we don’t know, we knit together the first step, of “Where
do I fit?” If you are not in a place that fits with your values, it’s not
sustainable.
So
we help you figure out what is it that fits with “all of me,” and we then
connect you to those opportunities. Many times with diversity programs, they
are focused just on the intake, which is just one component. But you want
people to thrive when they get there.
Many times with diversity programs, they
are focused just on the intake, which is just one component. But you want
people to thrive when they get there.
And
so, whether it is building your personal brand or building your board of
advisors or continuing with your skill development in a personalized, relevant
way -- or access to coaching because often many of us don’t have that unless we
are in the C-suite on the way -- we are able to knit that together in a way
that is relevant, that’s right-sized for the individual.
For
the company, we give them a turnkey solution to invest in a scalable way, to touch
more lives across their company, particularly in a more global environment. Rather
than having to place multiple bets, they place one bet with Landit. We leverage
that one-size-fits-one capability with things that we all know are keys to
success. We are then able to have them deliver that again, whether it is to the
newly minted managers or people they have just acquired or maybe they are
leaders that they want to continue to invest in. We enable them to do that in a
measurable way, so that they can see the engagement and the success and the
productivity.
Gardner: Alicia, I
know that SAP Ariba is already working to provide services to those
organizations that are trying to create diversity and inclusion within their
supply chains. How do you see Landit fitting into the business network that SAP
Ariba is building around diversity?
Tillman: First, the SAP Ariba Network is the
largest business to business (B2B) network on the planet. We connect more than 2.5
million companies that transact over $1 trillion in commerce annually. As you can
imagine, there is incredible diversity in the buying requirements that exist
amongst those companies that are located in all parts of the world and work in
virtually every industry.
One of things that we offer as an
organization is a Discovery
tool. When you have a network that is so large, it can be difficult and a bit
daunting for a buyer to find the supplier that meets their business
requirements, and for a supplier to find their ideal buyer. So our SAP Ariba
Discovery application is a matching service, if you will, that enables a buyer
to list their requirements. You then let the tool work for you to allow matching
you to suppliers that most meet your requirements, whatever they may be.
I’m very proud to have Lisa present at our Women in Leadership Forum at SAP AribaLIVE 2017. I am showcasing Lisa not only because of her entrepreneurial spirit and the success that she’s had in her career -- that I think will be very inspirational and motivational to women who are looking to continue to develop their careers -- but she has also created a powerful platform with Landit. For women, it helps provide a digital environment that allows them to harness precisely what it is that’s important to them when it comes to career development, and then offers the coaching in the Landit environment to enable that.
For women,
it helps provide a digital environment that allows them to harness precisely
what it is that’s important to them when it comes to career development.
Landit
also offers companies an ability to support their goals around gender
diversity. They can look at the Landit platform and source talent that is not
only very focused on careers -- but also supports a company in their diversity
goals. It’s a tremendous capability that’s necessary and needed in today’s
environment.
Gardner: Lisa, what has
changed in the past several years that has prompted this changed workforce? We have
talked about the business network as an enabler, and we have talked about
social networks connecting people. But what's going to be different about the
workforce going forward?
Collaborative visibility via networking
Skeete Tatum: There are three main things. First, there
is a recognition that diversity is not a “nice to have,” it’s a “must-have”
from a competitive standpoint; to acquire the best ideas and gain a better
return on capital. So it’s a business imperative to invest in and value
diversity within one's workforce. Second, businesses are continuing to shift
toward matching opportunities with the people who are best able to do that job,
but in a less-biased way. Thirdly, business-as-usual isn’t going to work in
this new reality of career management.
Business-as-usual isn’t going to work in
this new reality of career management.
It’s
no longer one- or bi-directional, where it’s just the manager or the employee.
It’s much more collaborative and driven by the individual. And so all of these
things … where there is much more opportunity, much more freedom. But how do
you anchor that with a problem and a framework and a connectivity that enables
someone to more successfully navigate the new environment and new
opportunities? How do you leverage and build your network? Everyone knows they need to do it, but many
people don’t know how to do it. Or when your brand is even more important,
visibility is more important, how do you develop and communicate your
accomplishments and your value? It is the confluence of those things coming
together that creates this new world order.
Gardner: Alicia, one
of the biggest challenges for most businesses is getting the skills that they
need in a timely fashion. How do we get past the difficulty of best matching
hiring? How do we use business networks
to help solve that?
Tillman: This is the
beauty of technology. Technology is an enabler in business to form
relationships more quickly, and to transact more quickly. Similarly, technology
also provides a network to help you grow from a development standpoint. Lisa’s
organization, Landit, is one example of that.
Within
SAP Ariba we are very focused on closing the gap in gaining the skills that are
necessary to be successful in today’s business environment. I look at the
offering of SAP SuccessFactors
- which is focused on empowering the humancapital management (HCM) organization to lead performance management and career
development. And SAP Fieldglass helps
companies find and source the right temporary labor that they need to service
their most pressing projects. Combine all that with a business network, and
there is no better place in today’s environment to find something you need -- and
find it quickly.
But
it all comes down to the individual’s desire to want to grow their skills, or
find new skills, to get out of their comfort zone and try something new. I
don’t believe there is a shortage of tools or applications to help enable that
growth and talent. It comes down to the individual’s desire to want to grab it
and go after it.
Maximize your potential with technology
Skeete Tatum: I couldn’t agree more. The technology
and the network are what create the opportunity. In the past, there may have
been a skills gap, but you have to be able to label it, you have to be able to
identify it in a way that is relevant to the individual. As Alicia said, there
are many opportunities out there for development, but how do you parse that
down and deliver it to the individual in a way that is relevant -- and that’s
actionable? That’s where a network comes in and where the power of one can be leveraged
in a scalable way.
Now
is probably one of the best times to invest in and have an individual grow to reach
their full potential. The desire to meet their goals can be leveraged by
technology in a very personal way.
Gardner: As we have
been hearing here at SAP Ariba LIVE 2017, more-and-more technologies along the
lines of artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) – are taking
advantage of all the data and analyzing it and making it actionable -- can now
be brought to bear on this set of issues of matching workforce requirements
with skill sets.
Where
should we expect to see these technologies reduce the complexity and help
companies identify the right workforce, and the workforce identify the right
companies?
Having the
data and being able to quantify and qualify it gives you the power to set a
path forward.
Skeete Tatum: Having the
data and being able to quantify and qualify it gives you the power to set a
path forward. The beauty is that it actually enables everyone to have the
opportunity to contribute, the opportunity to grow, and to create a path and a
sense of belonging by having a way to get there. From our perspective, it is
that empowerment and that ownership -- but with the support of the network from
the overall organization -- that enables someone to move forward. And it
enables the organization to be more successful and more embracing of this new
workforce, this diverse talent.
Tillman: Individuals
should feel more empowered today than ever before to really take their career
development to unprecedented levels. There are so many technologies, so many applications
out there to help coach you on every level. It’s up to the individual to truly
harness what is standing in front of them and
to
really grab hold of it -- and use it to their advantage to reach their career
goal.
Gardner: Lisa, what
should you be thinking about from a personal branding perspective when it comes
to making the best use of tools like Landit and business networks?
Skeete Tatum: The first thing is that people
actually have to think of themselves as a brand, as opposed to thinking that
they are bragging or being boastful. The most important brand you have is the
brand of you.
Second, people have to realize that this notion of building your brand is something that you nurture and it develops over time. What we believe is important is that we have to make it tangible, we have to make it actionable, and we have to make it bite-size, otherwise it seems overwhelming.
The most important brand you have is the brand of you.
Second, people have to realize that this notion of building your brand is something that you nurture and it develops over time. What we believe is important is that we have to make it tangible, we have to make it actionable, and we have to make it bite-size, otherwise it seems overwhelming.
So
we have defined what we believe are the 12 key elements for anyone to have a
successful brand, such as have you been visible, do you have a strategic plan
of you, are you seeking feedback, do you have a regular cadence of interaction
with your network, et cetera. Knowing what to do and how to do it and at what
cadence and at what level is what enables someone to move forward. And in today’s
environment, again, it’s even more important.
Pique their curiosity by promoting your own
Tillman: Employers want to be sure that they are attracting
candidates and employing candidates that are really invested in their own development.
An employer operates in the best interest of the employee in terms of helping
to enable tools and allow for that development to occur. At the same time, where
candidates can really differentiate themselves in today’s work environment is when
they are sitting across the table and they are in that interview. It's really
important for a candidate to talk about his or her own development and what are
they doing to constantly learn and support their curiosity.
Employers
want curious people. They want those that are taking advantage of development
and tools and learning, and these are the things that I think set people apart
from one another when they know that individually they are going to go after
learning opportunities and push themselves out of their comfort zone to take
themselves – and ultimately the companies that employ them - to the next level.
Gardner: Before we
close out, let’s take a peek into the crystal ball. What, Alicia, would be your
top two predictions given that we are just on sort of an inflection point with
this new network, with this new workforce and the networking effect for it?
Tillman: First, technology
is only going to continue to improve. Networks have historically enabled buyers
and sellers to come together and transact to build their organizations and
support growth, but networks are taking on a different form.
Technology
is going to continue to enable priorities professionally and priorities
personally. Technology is going to become a leading enabler of a person’s
professional development.
Second,
individuals are going to set themselves apart from others by their desire and
their hunger to really grab hold of that technology. When you think about
decision-making among companies in terms of candidates they hire and candidates
they don’t, employers are going to report back and say, “One of the leading
reasons why I selected one candidate over another is because of their desire to
learn and their desire to grab hold of technologies and networks that were
standing in front of them to bring their careers to an unprecedented level.”
Gardner: Lisa, what are your top two predictions for the new workforce and particularly for diversity playing a bigger role?
Technology ... enables people to bring their full selves, the full measure of their talent, to the workplace.
Skeete Tatum: Technology is the ultimate leveler of the playing field. It enables companies as well as the individual to make decisions based on things that matter. That is what enables people to bring their full selves, the full measure of their talent, to the workplace.
In
terms of networks in particular, they have always been a key element to success
but now they are even more important. It actually poses a special challenge for
diverse talent. They are often not part of the network, and they may have competing
personal responsibilities that make the investment of the time and the frequency
in those relationships a challenge.
Sometimes
there is a discomfort with how to do it. We believe that through technology
people will have to get comfortable with being uncomfortable. They need to learn
not only how to codify their network, but also have the right access to the
right person with the right cadence, and access to that know how, that guidance,
can be delivered through technology.
Gardner: I’m afraid we
will have to leave it there. We’ve been talking about the evolving role of
women and diversity in hiring and in the use of business networks. And we have
learned about how the new workforce is going to be leveraging various types of
technology, but it's up to the individual to become very familiar with that
technology -- and perhaps use it as a leveler.
So
a big thanks to our guests, Alicia Tillman, the Chief Marketing Officer at SAP
Ariba, and Lisa Skeete Tatum, the Co-founder and CEO of Landit. And, of course,
a big thank you to our audience as well for joining this special podcast coming
to you from the 2017 SAP Ariba LIVE conference in Las Vegas.
I’m
Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions, your host throughout
this series of SAP Ariba-sponsored BriefingsDirect digital business insights discussions.
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