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Dana Gardner: Hello, and welcome to the next edition of the HP Discover Podcast Series. I'm Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions, your host and moderator for this ongoing sponsored discussion on IT innovation and how it’s making an impact on people’s lives.
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Nikolay Golov: Hi.
Gardner: Tell us a little bit about your site and your business at Avito. It sounds like the Craigslist of Russia.
Golov: Yes, Avito is a Russian Craigslist. It's a big site and also the biggest search engine for some goods. We at Avito have more searches, for example, from iPhones than Google or Yandex. Yandex is a Russian Google.
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Golov: On Avito, you can sell almost anything that can be bought in the market. You can sell cars, you can sell houses, or rent them, for example. You can even find boats or business jets. We right now have about three business jets listed.
Gardner: So quite a diversity. What are your big data needs? It sounds as if in a country as large as Russia -- with that many goods and services -- you have a high-volume-of-data issue.
Size advantage
Golov: The main advantages of Avito is firstly its size. Everybody in Russia knows that if you want to buy or sell something, the best place for it is Avito. It’s first.
Second is speed. It is very easy to use it. We have a very easy interface. So we must keep these two advantages. But there are also some people who want to use Avito to sell weapons, drugs, and prohibited medicines. It's absolutely critical for Avito to keep it all clean, to prevent such items from appearing in the queries of our visitors.
We're growing very fast, and if we use moderators we'll have to increase our expense on moderation in a linear progressions as we grow. So, the only solution to avoid a linear increase in expenses is to use automation.
Gardner: In order to rapidly decide which should or should not be appearing on your site, you’ve decided to use a data warehouse that provides a streaming real-time data automation effect. Tell me what your requirements are for that technology?
Golov: We have various requirements. For example, we need to be able to perform fast fraud detection. The warehouse has to have very little delay. Hours are not permitted, it must be 10 minutes, no more.
Our data warehouse has to be big. It has to store months, possibly years, of data.
Second, we have to have data for long periods of time to learn our data mining algorithms, to create reports, and to analyze trends. So our data warehouse has to be very big. It has to store months, possibly years, of data. It has to be fast, or only slightly delayed, and it has to be big.
Third, we're developing very quickly. We're adding some new services, and we're integrating with partners. Not long ago, for example, we added information from Google AdWords to optimize banners. So the warehouse must be very flexible. It must be able to grow in all three ways.
Gardner: How long have you been using HP Vertica and how did you come to choose that particular platform?
Golov: Well over a year now. We chose Vertica for two two main advantages. First, speed of load and data. The I/O speed provided by Vertica is awesome.
It’s great and it can be done really fast. Vertica was the winner.
Measuring the impact
Gardner: Do you have a sense of what the performance and characteristics of Vertica and your data warehouse have gotten for you? Do you have a sense of reduced fraud by X percent or better analytics that have given you a business advantage of some sort? Are there ways to measure the true impact?
Golov: During last year, Avito grew really fast. We have a moderation team of about 250 persons at the beginning of this process. Now, we have the same moderation team, but the number of items has increased two-fold. I suppose that's one of the best measures that can be used.
Gardner: Fair enough. Now, looking to the future, when you're working in a business where your margins, your business, your revenue comes from the ability to provide advertisement placements, improving the performance and the value on the actual distribution of ads and the costs associated is critical.
In addition to rapid fraud detection and protection, is there a value from your analytics that refines the business algorithms and therefore the retail value to your customers?
We're starting few more products. The main aim of them is to create our own tool for optimizing the directions of advertising.
Golov: We're creating more products. The main aim of them is to create our own tool for optimizing the directions of advertising. We have banners, marketing campaigns, and SMS. So we've achieved some results in our reporting and in fraud prevention. We'll continue to work in that direction, and we are planning to add some new types of functionality to our data warehouse.
Gardner: It certainly seems that a data warehouse delivers a tactical benefit but then over time moves to a strategic benefit. The more data, inference, and understanding you have of your processes, the more powerful you can become as a total business.
Golov: Yes. One of my teachers in data warehouses explained the role of data warehouses in an enterprise. It’s like a diesel engine inside a ship. It just works, works, and works, and it’s hot around it. You can create various tools to increase it, to make it better.
But there must always be something deep inside that continuously provides all of the associated tools with power and strong data services from all sides of the business.
Gardner: I wonder for others who are listening to you and saying, "We really need to have that core platform in order to build out these other values over time." Do you have any lessons that you have learned that you might share. That is to say, if you're starting out to develop your own data warehouse and your own business intelligence (BI) and analytics capabilities, do you have any advice?
Be flexible
Golov: First, you have to be flexible. If you ask a business about changing, they'll tell you that they can’t. It will be absolutely this, every time. And in two months, it will still change. If you're not ready to change using your data warehouse to get needed data and analytics, it would be a disaster. That's first.
Second, there always will be errors in data, there will be gaps, and it's absolutely critical to start building a data warehouse together with an automated data quality system that will automatically control and monitor the quality of all the data. This will help you to see the problems when they occur.
If you're not ready to change the ratio of your data warehouse to get such data, it would be a disaster.
Gardner: I'm afraid we'll have to leave it there. We've been discussing how Avito, a large e-commerce portal and super retail site in Moscow, has been deploying a data warehouse and BI capability to not only prevent fraud, but also to grow its business through a better understanding of its customers and processes.
So, a big thank you to our guest, Nikolay Golov, Chief Data Warehousing Architect at Avito. Thank you so much.
Golov: Thanks a lot.
I'm Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions, your host for this ongoing series of HP-sponsored discussions. Thanks for listening, and come back next time.
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