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Tuesday, January 17, 2017

Fast Acquisition of Diverse Unstructured Data Sources Makes IDOL API Tools a Star at LogitBot

Transcript of a discussion on how high-performing big-data analysis powers an innovative artificial intelligence-based investment tool.

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Dana Gardner: Hello, and welcome to the next edition to the Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE) Voice of the Customer podcast series. I’m Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions, your host and moderator for this ongoing discussion on digital transformation. Stay with us now to learn how agile businesses are fending off disruption -- in favor of innovation.

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Our next case study highlights how high-performing big-data analysis powers an innovative artificial intelligence (AI)-based investment opportunity and evaluation tool. We'll learn how LogitBot in New York identifies, manages, and contextually categorizes truly massive and diverse data sources.

By leveraging entity recognition APIs, LogitBot not only provides investment evaluations from across these data sets, it delivers the analysis as natural-language information directly into spreadsheets as the delivery endpoint. This is a prime example of how complex cloud-to core-to edge processes and benefits can be managed and exploited using the most responsive big-data APIs and services.

To describe how a virtual assistant for targeting investment opportunities is being supported by cloud-based big-data services, we're joined by Mutisya Ndunda, Founder and CEO of LogitBot in New York. Welcome.

Mutisya Ndunda: Thank you so much for having us.

Gardner: We're also here with Michael Bishop, CTO of LogicBot. Welcome, Michael.

Michael Bishop: Thank you for having us. It’s good to be here.
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Gardner: Let’s look at some of the trends driving your need to do what you're doing with AI and bots, bringing together data, and then delivering it in the format that people want most. What’s the driver in the market for doing this?

Ndunda: LogitBot is all about trying to eliminate friction between people who have very high-value jobs and some of the more mundane things that could be automated by AI.

Ndunda
Today, in finance, the industry, in general, searches for investment opportunities using techniques that have been around for over 30 years. What tends to happen is that the people who are doing this should be spending more time on strategic thinking, ideation, and managing risk. But without AI tools, they tend to get bogged down in the data and in the day-to-day. So, we've decided to help them tackle that problem.

Gardner: Let the machines do what the machines do best. But how do we decide where the demarcation is between what the machines do well and what the people do well, Michael?

Bishop: We believe in empowering the user and not replacing the user. So, the machine is able to go in-depth and do what a high-performing analyst or researcher would do at scale, and it does that every day, instead of once a quarter, for instance, when research analysts would revisit an equity or a sector. We can do that constantly, react to events as they happen, and replicate what a high-performing analyst is able to do.

Gardner: It’s interesting to me that you're not only taking a vast amount of data and putting it into a useful format and qualitative type, but you're delivering it in a way that’s demanded in the market, that people want and use. Tell me about this core value and then the edge value and how you came to decide on doing it the way you do?

Evolutionary process

Ndunda: It’s an evolutionary process that we've embarked on or are going through. The industry is very used to doing things in a very specific way, and AI isn't something that a lot of people are necessarily familiar within financial services. We decided to wrap it around things that are extremely intuitive to an end user who doesn't have the time to learn technology.

So, we said that we'll try to leverage as many things as possible in the back via APIs and all kinds of other things, but the delivery mechanism in the front needs to be as simple or as friction-less as possible to the end-user. That’s our core principle.

Bishop: Finance professionals generally don't like black boxes and mystery, and obviously, when you're dealing with money, you don’t want to get an answer out of a machine you can’t understand. Even though we're crunching a lot of information and  making a lot of inferences, at the end of the day, they could unwind it themselves if they wanted to verify the inferences that we have made.

Bishop
We're wrapping up an incredibly complicated amount of information, but it still makes sense at the end of the day. It’s still intuitive to someone. There's not a sense that this is voodoo under the covers.

Gardner: Well, let’s pause there. We'll go back to the data issues and the user-experience issues, but tell us about LogitBot. You're a startup, you're in New York, and you're focused on Wall Street. Tell us how you came to be and what you do, in a more general sense.

Ndunda: Our professional background has always been in financial services. Personally, I've spent over 15 years in financial services, and my career led me to what I'm doing today.

In the 2006-2007 timeframe, I left Merrill Lynch to join a large proprietary market-making business called Susquehanna International Group. They're one of the largest providers of liquidity around the world. Chances are whenever you buy or sell a stock, you're buying from or selling to Susquehanna or one of its competitors.

What had happened in that industry was that people were embracing technology, but it was algorithmic trading, what has become known today as high-frequency trading. At Susquehanna, we resisted that notion, because we said machines don't necessarily make decisions well, and this was before AI had been born.

Internally, we went through this period where we had a lot of discussions around, are we losing out to the competition, should we really go pure bot, more or less? Then, 2008 hit and our intuition of allowing our traders to focus on the risky things and then setting up machines to trade riskless or small orders paid off a lot for the firm; it was the best year the firm ever had, when everyone else was falling apart.

That was the first piece that got me to understand or to start thinking about how you can empower people and financial professionals to do what they really do well and then not get bogged down in the details.

Then, I joined Bloomberg and I spent five years there as the head of strategy and business development. The company has an amazing business, but it's built around the notion of static data. What had happened in that business was that, over a period of time, we began to see the marketplace valuing analytics more and more.

Make a distinction

Part of the role that I was brought in to do was to help them unwind that and decouple the two things -- to make a distinction within the company about static information versus analytical or valuable information. The trend that we saw was that hedge funds, especially the ones that were employing systematic investment strategies, were beginning to do two things, to embrace AI or technology to empower your traders and then also look deeper into analytics versus static data.

That was what brought me to LogitBot. I thought we could do it really well, because the players themselves don't have the time to do it and some of the vendors are very stuck in their traditional business models.

Bishop: We're seeing a kind of renaissance here, or we're at a pivotal moment, where we're moving away from analytics in the sense of business reporting tools or understanding yesterday. We're now able to mine data, get insightful, actionable information out of it, and then move into predictive analytics. And it's not just statistical correlations. I don’t want to offend any quants, but a lot of technology [to further analyze information] has come online recently, and more is coming online every day.

For us, Google had released TensorFlow, and that made a substantial difference in our ability to reason about natural language. Had it not been for that, it would have been very difficult one year ago.

At the moment, technology is really taking off in a lot of areas at once. That enabled us to move from static analysis of what's happened in the past and move to insightful and actionable information.
Relying on a backward-looking mechanism of trying to interpret the future is kind of really dangerous, versus having a more grounded approach.

Ndunda: What Michael kind of touched on there is really important. A lot of traditional ways of looking at financial investment opportunities is to say that historically, this has happened. So, history should repeat itself. We're in markets where nothing that's happening today has really happened in the past. So, relying on a backward-looking mechanism of trying to interpret the future is kind of really dangerous, versus having a more grounded approach that can actually incorporate things that are nontraditional in many different ways.

So, unstructured data, what investors are thinking, what central bankers are saying, all of those are really important inputs, one part of any model 10 or 20 years ago. Without machine learning and some of the things that we are doing today, it’s very difficult to incorporate any of that and make sense of it in a structured way.

Gardner: So, if the goal is to make outlier events your friend and not your enemy, what data do you go to to close the gap between what's happened and what the reaction should be, and how do you best get that data and make it manageable for your AI and machine-learning capabilities to exploit?

Ndunda: Michael can probably add to this as well. We do not discriminate as far as data goes. What we like to do is have no opinion on data ahead of time. We want to get as much information as possible and then let a scientific process lead us to decide what data is actually useful for the task that we want to deploy it on.

As an example, we're very opportunistic about acquiring information about who the most important people at companies are and how they're connected to each other. Does this guy work on a board with this or how do they know each other? It may not have any application at that very moment, but over the course of time, you end up building models that are actually really interesting.

We scan over 70,000 financial news sources. We capture news information across the world. We don't necessarily use all of that information on a day-to-day basis, but at least we have it and we can decide how to use it in the future.

We also monitor anything that companies file and what management teams talk about at investor conferences or on phone conversations with investors.

Bishop: Conference calls, videos, interviews.

Audio to text

Ndunda: HPE has a really interesting technology that they have recently put out. You can transcribe audio to text, and then we can apply our text processing on top of that to understand what management is saying in a structural, machine-based way. Instead of 50 people listening to 50 conference calls you could just have a machine do it for you.

Gardner: Something we can do there that we couldn't have done before is that you can also apply something like sentiment analysis, which you couldn’t have done if it was a document, and that can be very valuable.

Bishop: Yes, even tonal analysis. There are a few theories on that, that may or may not pan out, but there are studies around tone and cadence. We're looking at it and we will see if it actually pans out.

Gardner: And so do you put this all into your own on-premises data-center warehouse or do you take advantage of cloud in a variety of different means by which to corral and then analyze this data? How do you take this fire hose and make it manageable?

Bishop: We do take advantage of the cloud quite aggressively. We're split between SoftLayer and Google. At SoftLayer we have bare-metal hardware machines and some power machines with high-power GPUs.
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On the Google side, we take advantage of Bigtable and BigQuery and some of their infrastructure tools. And we have good, old PostgreSQL in there, as well as DataStax, Cassandra, and their Graph as the graph engine. We make liberal use of HPE Haven APIs as well and TensorFlow, as I mentioned before. So, it’s a smorgasbord of things you need to corral in order to get the job done. We found it very hard to find all of that wrapped in a bow with one provider.

We're big proponents of Kubernetes and Docker as well, and we leverage that to avoid lock-in where we can. Our workload can migrate between Google and the SoftLayer Kubernetes cluster. So, we can migrate between hardware or virtual machines (VMs), depending on the horsepower that’s needed at the moment. That's how we handle it.

Gardner: So, maybe 10 years ago you would have been in a systems-integration capacity, but now you're in a services-integration capacity. You're doing some very powerful things at a clip and probably at a cost that would have been impossible before.

Bishop: I certainly remember placing an order for a server, waiting six months, and then setting up the RAID drives. It's amazing that you can just flick a switch and you get a very high-powered machine that would have taken six months to order previously. In Google, you spin up a VM in seconds. Again, that's of a horsepower that would have taken six months to get.

Gardner: So, unprecedented innovation is now at our fingertips when it comes to the IT side of things, unprecedented machine intelligence, now that the algorithms and APIs are driving the opportunity to take advantage of that data.

Let's go back to thinking about what you're outputting and who uses that. Is the investment result that you're generating something that goes to a retail type of investor? Is this something you're selling to investment houses or a still undetermined market? How do you bring this to market?

Natural language interface

Ndunda: Roboto, which is the natural-language interface into our analytical tools, can be custom tailored to respond, based on the user's level of financial sophistication.

At present, we're trying them out on a semiprofessional investment platform, where people are professional traders, but not part of a major brokerage house. They obviously want to get trade ideas, they want to do analytics, and they're a little bit more sophisticated than people who are looking at investments for their retirement account.  Rob can be tailored for that specific use case.

He can also respond to somebody who is managing a portfolio at a hedge fund. The level of depth that he needs to consider is the only differential between those two things.

In the back, he may do an extra five steps if the person asking the question worked at a hedge fund, versus if the person was just asking about why is Apple up today. If you're a retail investor, you don’t want to do a lot of in-depth analysis.

Bishop: You couldn’t take the app and do anything with it or understand it.
If our initial findings here pan out or continue to pan out, it's going to be a very powerful interface.

Ndunda: Rob is an interface, but the analytics are available via multiple venues. So, you can access the same analytics via an API, a chat interface, the web, or a feed that streams into you. It just depends on how your systems are set up within your organization. But, the data always will be available to you.

Gardner: Going out to that edge equation, that user experience, we've talked about how you deliver this to the endpoints, customary spreadsheets, cells, pivots, whatever. But it also sounds like you are going toward more natural language, so that you could query, rather than a deep SQL environment, like what we get with a Siri or the Amazon Echo. Is that where we're heading?

Bishop: When we started this, trying to parameterize everything that you could ask into enough checkboxes and forums pollutes the screen. The system has access to an enormous amount of data that you can't create a parameterized screen for. We found it was a bit of a breakthrough when we were able to start using natural language.

TensorFlow made a huge difference here in natural language understanding, understanding the intent of the questioner, and being able to parameterize a query from that. If our initial findings here pan out or continue to pan out, it's going to be a very powerful interface.

I can't imagine having to go back to a SQL query if you're able to do it natural language, and it really pans out this time, because we’ve had a few turns of the handle of alleged natural-language querying.

Gardner: And always a moving target. Tell us specifically about SentryWatch and Precog. How do these shake out in terms of your go-to-market strategy?

 How everything relates

Ndunda: One of the things that we have to do to be able to answer a lot of questions that our customers may have is to monitor financial markets and what's impacting them on a continuous basis. SentryWatch is literally a byproduct of that process where, because we're monitoring over 70,000 financial news sources, we're analyzing the sentiment, we're doing deep text analysis on it, we're identifying entities and how they're related to each other, in all of these news events, and we're sticking that into a knowledge graph of how everything relates to everything else.

It ends up being a really valuable tool, not only for us, but for other people, because while we're building models. there are also a lot of hedge funds that have proprietary models or proprietary processes that could benefit from that very same organized relational data store of news. That's what SentryWatch is and that's how it's evolved. It started off with something that we were doing as an import and it's actually now a valuable output or a standalone product.

Precog is a way for us to showcase the ability of a machine to be predictive and not be backward looking. Again, when people are making investment decisions or allocation of capital across different investment opportunities, you really care about your forward return on your investments. If I invested a dollar today, am I likely to make 20 cents in profit tomorrow or 30 cents in profit tomorrow?

We're using pretty sophisticated machine-learning models that can take into account unstructured data sources as part of the modeling process. That will give you these forward expectations about stock returns in a very easy-to-use format, where you don't need to have a PhD in physics or mathematics.
We're using pretty sophisticated machine-learning models that can take into account unstructured data sources as part of the modeling process.

You just ask, "What is the likely return of Apple over the next six months," taking into account what's going on in the economy.  Apple was fined $14 billion. That can be quickly added into a model and reflect a new view in a matter of seconds versus sitting down in a spreadsheet and trying to figure out how it all works out.

Gardner: Even for Apple, that's a chunk of change.

Bishop: It's a lot money, and you can imagine that there were quite a few analysts on Wall Street in Excel, updating their models around this so that they could have an answer by the end of the day, where we already had an answer.

Gardner: How do the HPE Haven OnDemand APIs help the Precog when it comes to deciding those sources, getting them in the right format, so that you can exploit?

Ndunda: The beauty of the platform is that it simplifies a lot of development processes that an organization of our size would have to take on themselves.

The nice thing about it is that a drag-and-drop interface is really intuitive; you don't need to be specialized in Java, Python, or whatever it is. You can set up your intent in a graphical way, and then test it out, build it, and expand it as you go along. The Lego-block structure is really useful, because if you want to try things out, it's drag and drop, connect the dots, and then see what you get on the other end.

For us, that's an innovation that we haven't seen with anybody else in the marketplace and it cuts development time for us significantly.

Gardner: Michael, anything more to add on how this makes your life a little easier?

Lowering cost

Bishop: For us, lowering the cost in time to run an experiment is very important when you're running a lot of experiments, and the Combinations product enables us to run a lot of varied experiments using a variety of the HPE Haven APIs in different combinations very quickly. You're able to get your development time down from a week, two weeks, whatever it is to wire up an API to assist them.

In the same amount of time, you're able to wire the initial connection and then you have access to pretty much everything in Haven. You turn it over to either a business user, a data scientist, or a machine-learning person, and they can drag and drop the connectors themselves. It makes my life easier and it makes the developers’ lives easier because it gets back time for us.

Gardner: So, not only have we been able to democratize the querying, moving from SQL to natural language, for example, but we’re also democratizing the choice on sources and combinations of sources in real time, more or less for different types of analyses, not just the query, but the actual source of the data.
The power of a lot of this stuff is in the unstructured world, because valuable information typically tends to be hidden in documents.

Bishop: Correct.

Ndunda: Again, the power of a lot of this stuff is in the unstructured world, because valuable information typically tends to be hidden in documents. In the past, you'd have to have a team of people to scour through text, extract what they thought was valuable, and summarize it for you. You could miss out on 90 percent of the other valuable stuff that's in the document.

With this ability now to drag and drop and then go through a document in five different iterations by just tweaking, a parameter is really useful.

Gardner: So those will be IDOL-backed APIs that you are referring to.

Ndunda: Exactly.

Bishop: It’s something that would be hard for an investment bank, even a few years ago, to process. Everyone is on the same playing field here or starting from the same base, but dealing with unstructured data has been traditionally a very difficult problem. You have a lot technologies coming online as APIs; at the same time, they're also coming out as traditional on-premises [software and appliance] solutions.

We're all starting from the same gate here. Some folks are little ahead, but I'd say that Facebook is further ahead than an investment bank in their ability to reason over unstructured data. In our world, I feel like we're starting basically at the same place that Goldman or Morgan would be.

Gardner: It's a very interesting reset that we’re going through. It's also interesting that we talked earlier about the divide between where the machine and the individual knowledge worker begins or ends, and that's going to be a moving target. Do you have any sense of how that changes its characterization of what the right combination is of machine intelligence and the best of human intelligence?

Empowering humans

Ndunda: I don’t foresee machines replacing humans, per se. I see them empowering humans, and to the extent that your role is not completely based on a task, if it's based on something where you actually manage a process that goes from one end to another, those particular positions will be there, and the machines will free our people to focus on that.

But, in the case where you have somebody who is really responsible for something that can be automated, then obviously that will go away. Machines don't eat, they don’t need to take vacation, and if it’s a task where you don't need to reason about it, obviously you can have a computer do it.

What we're seeing now is that if you have a machine sitting side by side with a human, and the machine can pick up on how the human reasons with some of the new technologies, then the machine can do a lot of the grunt work, and I think that’s the future of all of this stuff.
I don’t foresee machines replacing humans, per se. I see them empowering humans.

Bishop: What we're delivering is that we distill a lot of information, so that a knowledge worker or decision-maker can make an informed decision, instead of watching CNBC and being a single-source reader. We can go out and scour the best of all the information, distill it down, and present it, and they can choose to act on it.

Our goal here is not to make the next jump and make the decision. Our job is to present the information to a decision-maker.

Gardner: It certainly seems to me that the organization, big or small, retail or commercial, can make the best use of this technology. Machine learning, in the end, will win.

Ndunda: Absolutely. It is a transformational technology, because for the first time in a really long time, the reasoning piece of it is within grasp of machines. These machines can operate in the gray area, which is where the world lives.

Gardner: And that gray area can almost have unlimited variables applied to it.

Ndunda: Exactly. Correct.
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Gardner: I'm afraid we'll have to leave it there. We've been exploring how high-performing big-data analysis powers an innovative artificial intelligence-based investment opportunity in a valuation tool, and we've learned how LogitBot in New York identifies, manages, and contextually categorizes truly massive and diverse data sources.

So please join me in thanking our guests, Mutisya Ndunda, Founder and CEO of LogitBot in New York. Thank you, sir.

Ndunda: It was a pleasure. Thank you so much.

Gardner: We've also been here with Michael Bishop, CTO of LogicBot. Thank you, Michael.

Bishop: Thank you, Dana.

Gardner: And a big thank you as well to our audience for joining us for this Hewlett-Packard Enterprise, Voice of the Customer digital transformation discussion.

I'm Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions, your host for this ongoing series of HPE sponsored interviews. Thanks again for listening, and do come back next time.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2016

How WWT Took an Enterprise Tower of Babel and Delivered Comprehensive Intelligent Search

Transcript of a discussion on how WWT reached deep into its applications data and content to rapidly and efficiently create a powerful Google-like, pan-enterprise search capability.

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Dana Gardner: Welcome to the next edition to the Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE) Voice of the Customer podcast series. I’m Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions, your host and moderator for this ongoing discussion on digital transformation. Stay with us now to learn how agile companies are fending off disruption in favor of innovation.

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Our next enterprise case study highlights how World Wide Technology, known as WWT, in St. Louis, found itself with a very serious yet somehow very common problem -- users simply couldn’t find relevant company content.

We'll explore how WWT reached deep into its applications, data, and content to rapidly and efficiently create a powerful Google-like, pan-enterprise search capability. Not only does it search better and power users, it sets the stage for expanded capabilities using advanced analytics to engender a more productive and proactive digital business culture.

Here to describe how WWT took an enterprise Tower of Babel and delivered cross-applications intelligent search, we’re joined by James Nippert, Enterprise Search Project Manager at World Wide Technology. Welcome, James.

James Nippert: Hello, thank you for having me.
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Gardner: We're also here with Susan Crincoli, Manager of Enterprise Content at World Wide Technology. Welcome, Susan.

Susan Crincoli: Good afternoon.

Gardner: It seems pretty evident that the better search you have in an organization, the better people are going to find what they need as they need it. What holds companies back from delivering results like people are used to getting on the web?

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Nippert:  It’s the way things have always been. You just had to drill down from the top level. You go to your Exchange, your email, and start there. Did you save a file here? "No, I think I saved it on my SharePoint site," and so you try to find it there, or maybe it was in a file directory.

Those are the steps that people have been used to because it’s how they've been doing it their entire lives, and it's the nature of beast as we bring more and more enterprise applications into the fold. You have enterprises with 100 or 200 applications, and each of those has its own unique data silos. So, users have to try to juggle all of these different content sources where stuff could be saved. They're just used to having to dig through each one of those to try to find whatever they’re looking for.

Gardner: And we’ve all become accustomed to instant gratification. If we want something, we want it right away. So, if you have to tag something, or you have to jump through some hoops, it doesn’t seem to be part of what people want. Susan, are there any other behavioral parts of this?

Find the world

Crincoli: We, as consumers, are getting used to the Google-like searching. We want to go to one place and find the world. In the information age, we want to go to one place and be able to find whatever it is we’re looking for. That easily transfers into business problems. As we store data in myriad different places, the business user also wants the same kind of an interface.

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Gardner: Certain tools that can only look at a certain format or can only deal with certain tags or taxonomy are strong, but we want to be comprehensive. We don’t want to leave any potentially powerful crumbs out there not brought to bear on a problem. What’s been the challenge when it comes to getting at all the data, structured, unstructured, in various formats?

Nippert: Traditional search tools are built off of document metadata. It’s those tags that go along with records, whether it’s the user who uploaded it, the title, or the date it was uploaded. Companies have tried for a long time to get users to tag with additional metadata that will make documents easier to search for. Maybe it’s by department, so you can look for everything in the HR Department.

At the same time, users don’t want to spend half an hour tagging a document; they just want to load it and move on with their day. Take pictures, for example. Most enterprises have hundreds of thousands of pictures that are stored, but they’re all named whatever number the camera gave, and they will name it DC0001. If you have 1,000 pictures named that you can't have a successful search, because no search engine will be able to tell just by that title -- and nothing else -- what they want to find.

Gardner: So, we have a situation where the need is large and the paybacks could be large, but the task and the challenge are daunting. Tell us about your journey. What did you do in order to find a solution?

Nippert: We originally recognized a problem with our on-premises Microsoft SharePoint environment. We were using an older version of SharePoint that was running mostly on metadata, and our users weren’t uploading any metadata along with their internet content.
Your average employee can spend over an entire work week per year searching for information or documentation that they need to get their job done.

We originally set out to solve that issue, but then, as we began interviewing business users, we understood very quickly that this is an enterprise-scale problem. Scaling out even further, we found out it’s been reported that as much as 10 percent of staffing costs can be lost directly to employees not being able to find what they're looking for. Your average employee can spend over an entire work week per year searching for information or documentation that they need to get their job done.

So it’s a very real problem. WWT noticed it over the last couple of years, but as there is the velocity in volume of data increase, it’s only going to become more apparent. With that in mind, we set out to start an RFI process for all the enterprise search leaders. We used the Gartner Magic Quadrants and started talks with all of the Magic Quadrant leaders. Then, through a down-selection process, we eventually landed on HPE.

We have a wonderful strategic partnership with them. It wound up being that we went with the HPE IDOL tool, which has been one of the leaders in enterprise search, as well as big data analytics, for well over a decade now, because it has very extensible platform, something that you can really scale out and customize and build on top of. It doesn’t just do one thing.

Gardner: And it’s one solution to let people find what they're looking for, but when you're comprehensive and you can get all kinds of data in all sorts of apps, silos and nooks and crannies, you can deliver results that the searching party didn’t even know was there. The results can be perhaps more powerful than they were originally expecting.

Susan, any thoughts about a culture, a digital transformation benefit, when you can provide that democratization of search capability, but maybe extended into almost analytics or some larger big-data type of benefit?

Multiple departments

Crincoli: We're working across multiple departments and we have a lot of different internal customers that we need to serve. We have a sales team, business development practices, and professional services. We have all these different departments that are searching for different things to help them satisfy our customers’ needs.

With HPE being a partner, where their customers are our customers, we have this great relationship with them. It helps us to see the value across all the different things that we can bring to bear to get all this data, and then, as we move forward, what we help people build more relevant results.

If something is searched for one time, versus 100 times, then that’s going to bubble up to the top. That means that we're getting the best information to the right people in the right amount of time. I'm looking forward to extending this platform and to looking at analytics and into other platforms.
That means that we're getting the best information to the right people in the right amount of time.

Gardner: That’s why they call it "intelligent search." It learns as you go.

Nippert: The concept behind intelligent search is really two-fold. It first focuses on business empowerment, which is letting your users find whatever it is specifically that they're looking for, but then, when you talk about business enablement, it’s also giving users the intelligent conceptual search experience to find information that they didn’t even know they should be looking for.

If I'm a sales representative and I'm searching for company "X," I need to find any of the Salesforce data on that, but maybe I also need to find the account manager, maybe I need to find professional services’ engineers who have worked on that, or maybe I'm looking for documentation on a past project. As Susan said, that Google-like experience is bringing that all under one roof for someone, so they don’t have to go around to all these different places; it's presented right to them.

Gardner: Tell us about World Wide Technology, so we understand why having this capability is going to be beneficial to your large, complex organization?
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Crincoli: We're a $7-billion organization and we have strategic partnerships with Cisco, HPE, EMC, and NetApp, etc. We have a lot of solutions that we bring to market. We're a solution integrator and we're also a reseller. So, when you're an account manager and you're looking across all of the various solutions that we can provide to solve the customer’s problems, you need to be able to find all of the relevant information.

You probably need to find people as well. Not only do I need to find how we can solve this customer’s problem, but also who has helped us to solve this customer’s problem before. So, let me find the right person, the right pre-sales engineer or the right post-sales engineer. Or maybe there's somebody in professional services. Maybe I want the person who implemented it the last time. All these different people, as well as solutions that we can bring in help give that sales team the information they need right at their fingertips.

It’s very powerful for us to think about the struggles that a sales manager might have, because we have so many different ways that we can help our customer solve those problems. We're giving them that data at their fingertips, whether that’s from Salesforce, all the way through to SharePoint or something in an email that they can’t find from last year. They know they have talked to somebody about this before, or they want to know who helped me. Pulling all of that information together is so powerful.

We don’t want them to waste their time when they're sitting in front of a customer trying to remember what it was that they wanted to talk about.

Gardner: It really amounts to customer service benefits in a big way, but I'm also thinking this is a great example of how, when you architect and deploy and integrate properly on the core, on the back end, that you can get great benefits delivered to the edge. What is the interface that people tend to use? Is there anything we can discuss about ease of use in terms of that front-end query?

Simple and intelligent

Nippert: As far as ease of use goes, it’s simplicity. If you're a sales rep or an engineer in the field, you need to be able to pull something up quickly. You don’t want to have to go through layers and layers of filtering and drilling down to find what you're looking for. It needs to be intelligent enough that, even if you can’t remember the name of a document or the title of a document, you ought to be able to search for a string of text inside the document and it still comes back to the top. That’s part of the intelligent search; that’s one of the features of HPE IDOL.

Whenever you're talking about front-end, it should be something light and something fast. Again, it’s synonymous with what users are used to on the consumer edge, which is Google. There are very few search platforms out there that can do it better. Look at the  Google home page. It’s a search bar and two buttons; that’s all it is. When users are used to that at home and they come to work, they don’t want a cluttered, clumsy, heavy interface. They just need to be able to find what they're looking for as quickly and simply as possible. 

Gardner: Do you have any examples where you can qualify or quantify the benefit of this technology and this approach that will illustrate why it’s important?
It’s gotten better at finding everything from documents to records to web pages across the board; it’s improving on all of those.

Nippert: We actually did a couple surveys, pre- and post-implementation. As I had mentioned earlier, it was very well known that our search demands weren't being met. The feedback that we heard over and over again was "search sucks." People would say that all the time. So, we tried to get a little more quantification around that with some surveys before and after the implementation of IDOL search for the enterprise. We got a couple of really great numbers out of it. We saw that people’s satisfaction with search went up by about 30 percent with overall satisfaction. Before, it was right in the middle, half of them were happy, half of them weren’t.

Now, we're well over 80 percent that have overall satisfaction with search. It’s gotten better at finding everything from documents to records to web pages across the board; it’s improving on all of those. As far as the specifics go, the thing we really cared about going into this was, "Can I find it on the first page?" How often do you ever go to the second page of search results.

With our pre-surveys, we found that under five percent of people were finding it on the first page. They had to go to second or third page or four through 10. Most of the users just gave up if it wasn’t on the first page. Now, over 50 percent of users are able to find what they're looking for on the very first page, and if not, then definitely the second or third page.

We've gone from a completely unsuccessful search experience to a valid successful search experience that we can continue to enhance on.

Crincoli: I agree with James. When I came to the company, I felt that way, too -- search sucks. I couldn’t find what I was looking for. What’s really cool with what we've been able to do is also review what people are searching for. Then, as we go back and look at those analytics, we can make those the best bets.

If we see hundreds of people are searching for the same thing or through different contexts, then we can make those the best bets. They're at the top and you can separate those things out. These are things like the handbook or PTO request forms that people are always searching for.

Gardner: I'm going to just imagine that if I were in the healthcare, pharma, or financial sectors, I'd want to give my employees this capability, but I'd also be concerned about proprietary information and protection of data assets. Maybe you're not doing this, but wonder what you know about allowing for the best of search, but also with protection, warnings, and some sort of governance and oversight. 

Governance suite

Nippert: There is a full governance suite built in and it comes through a couple of different features. One of the main ones is induction, where as IDOL scans through every single line of a document or a PowerPoint slide of a spreadsheet whatever it is, it can recognize credit card numbers, Social Security numbers anything that’s personally identifiable information (PII) and either pull that out, delete it, send alerts, whatever.

You have that full governance suite built in to anything that you've indexed. It also has a mapped security engine built in called Omni Group, so it can map the security of any content source. For example, in SharePoint, if you have access to a file and I don’t and if we each ran a search, you would see a comeback in the results and I wouldn’t. So, it can honor any content’s security.  

Gardner: Your policies and your rules are what’s implemented, and that’s how it goes?

Nippert: Exactly. It is up to as the search team or working with your compliance or governance team to make sure that that does happen.

Gardner: As we think about the future and the availability for other datasets to be perhaps brought in, that search is a great tool for access to more than just corporate data, enterprise data and content, but maybe also the front-end for some advanced querying analytics, business intelligence (BI), has there been any talk about how to take what you are doing in enterprise search and munge that, for lack of a better word, with analytics BI and some of the other big data capabilities.
It is going to be something that we can continue to build on top of, as well and come up with our own unique analytic solutions.

Nippert: Absolutely. So HPE has just recently released BI for Human Intelligence (BIFHI), which is their new front end for IDOL and that has a ton of analytics capabilities built into it that really excited to start looking at a lot of rich text, rich media analytics that can pull the words right off the transcript of an MP4 raw video and transcribe it at the same time. But more than that, it is going to be something that we can continue to build on top of, as well and come up with our own unique analytic solutions.

Gardner: So talk about empowering your employees. Everybody can become a data scientist eventually, right, Susan?

Crincoli: That’s right. If you think about all of the various contexts, we started out with just a few sources, but we also have some excitement because we built custom applications, both for our customers and for our internal work. We're taking that to the next level with building an API and pulling that data into the enterprise search that just makes it even more extensible to our enterprise.

Gardner: I suppose the next step might be the natural language audio request where you would talk to your PC, your handheld device, and say, "World Wide Technology feed me this," and it will come back, right?

Nippert: Absolutely. You won’t even have to lift a finger anymore.

Cool things

Crincoli: It would be interesting to loop in what they are doing with Cortana at Microsoft and some of the machine learning and some of the different analytics behind Cortana. I'd love to see how we could loop that together. But those are all really cool things that we would love to explore.

Gardner: But you can’t get there until you solve the initial blocking and tackling around content and unstructured data synthesized into a usable format and capability.

Nippert: Absolutely. The flip side of controlling your data sources, as we're learning, is that there are a lot of important data sources out there that aren’t good candidates for enterprise search whatsoever. When you look at a couple of terabytes or petabytes of MongoDB data that’s completely unstructured and it’s just binaries, that’s enterprise data, but it’s not something that anyone is looking for.
The flip side of controlling your data sources, as we're learing, is that there are a lot of important data sources out there that aren’t good candidates for enterprise search.

So even though our original knee-jerk is to index everything, get everything to search, you want to able to search across everything. But you also have to take it with a grain of salt. A new content source could be hundreds or thousands of results that could potentially clutter the accuracy of results. Sometimes, it’s actually knowing when not to search something.

Gardner: That would be the "not-too-intelligent" search, right?

Nippert: Exactly.

Gardner: It sounds like this is an essential part of any organization to become a digital company and data-driven, an intelligent and fit-for-purpose approach to gathering that assets wherever they are.

I want to thank our guests. We've been exploring with World Wide Technology how a very serious and somehow difficult problem of users simply finding relevant content can be solved. We've seen how WWT has reached deep into its applications data and content to rapidly and efficiently create a powerful Google-like, pan-enterprise search capability.

So, please join me in thanking our guests, James Nippert, the Enterprise Search Project Manager at World Wide Technology. Thanks, James.

Nippert: Thank you very much for having me.
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Gardner:  And we've also been joined by Susan Crincoli, Manager of Enterprise Content at World Wide Technology. Thank you, Susan.

Crincoli:  Thanks, Dana, I appreciate it.

Gardner:  And a big thank you as well to our audience for joining us for this Hewlett-Packard Enterprise Voice of the Customer digital transformation discussion.

I'm Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions, your host for this ongoing series of HPE-sponsored interviews. Thanks again for listening, and please do come back next time.

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Swift and Massive Data Classification Advances Score a Win for Better Securing Sensitive Information

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Dana Gardner: Hello, and welcome to the next edition of the Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE) Voice of the Customer podcast series. I’m Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions, your host and moderator for this ongoing discussion on business digital transformation. Stay with us now to learn how agile companies are fending off disruption -- in favor of innovation.

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Our next case study explores how -- in an era when cybersecurity attacks are on the rise and enterprises and governments are increasingly vulnerable -- new data intelligence capabilities are being brought to the edge to provide better data loss prevention (DLP).

We'll learn how Digital Guardian in Waltham, Massachusetts analyzes both structured and unstructured data to predict and prevent loss of data and intellectual property (IP) with increased accuracy.

To learn how data recognition technology supports network and endpoint forensic insights for enhanced security and control, we're joined by Marcus Brown, Vice President of Corporate Business Development for Digital Guardian.
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Welcome, Marcus.

Marcus Brown: Hi, Dana. Great to be here.

Gardner: Set the stage for us. What are some of the major trends making DLP even more important, even more effective?

Brown: Data protection has very much to come to the forefront in the last couple of years. Unfortunately, we wake up every morning and read in the newspapers, see on television, and hear on the radio a lot about data breaches. It’s pretty much every type of company, every type of organization, government organizations, etc., that’s being hit by this phenomenon at the moment.

Brown

So, awareness is very high, and apart from the frequency, a couple of key points are changing. First of all, you have a lot of very skilled adversaries coming into this, criminals, nation-state actors, hactivists, and many others. All these people are well-trained and very well resourced to come after your data. That means that companies have a pretty big challenge in front of them. The threat has never been bigger.

In terms of data protection, there are a couple of key trends at the cyber-security level. People have been aware of the so-called insider threat for a long time. This could be a disgruntled employee or it could be someone who has been recruited for monetary gain to help some organization get to your data. That’s a difficult one, because the insider has all the privilege and the visibility and knows where the data is. So, that’s not a good thing.

Then, you have employees, well-meaning employees, who just make mistakes. It happens to all of us. We touch something in Outlook, and we have a different email address than the one we were intending, and it goes out. The well-meaning employees, as well, are part of the insider threat.

Outside threats

What’s really escalated over the last couple of years are the advanced external attackers or the outside threat, as we call it. These are well-resourced, well-trained people from nation-states or criminal organizations trying to break in from the outside. They do that with malware or phishing campaigns.

About 70 percent of the attacks stop with the phishing campaign, when someone clicks on something that looked normal. Then, there's just general hacking, a lot of people getting in without malware at all. They just hack straight in using different techniques that don’t rely on malware.

People have become so good at developing malware and targeting malware at particular organizations, at particular types of data, that a lot of tools like antivirus and intrusion prevention just don’t work very well. The success rate is very low. So, there are new technologies that are better at detecting stuff at the perimeter and on the endpoint, but it’s a tough time.

There are internal and external attackers. A lot of people outside are ultimately after the two main types of data that companies have. One is a customer data, which is credit card numbers, healthcare information, and all that stuff. All of this can be sold on the black market per record for so-and-so many dollars. It’s a billion-dollar business. People are very motivated to do this.

Most companies don’t want to lose their customers’ data. That’s seen as a pretty bad thing, a bad breach of trust, and people don’t like that. Then, obviously, for any company that has a product where you have IP, you spent lots of money developing that, whether it’s the new model of a car or some piece of electronics. It could be a movie, some new clothing, or whatever. It’s something that you have developed and it’s a secret IP. You don’t want that to get out, as well as all of your other internal information, whether it’s your financials, your plans, or your pricing. There are a lot of people going after both of those things, and that’s really the challenge.

In general, the world has become more mobile and spread out. There is no more perimeter to stop people from getting in. Everyone is everywhere, private life and work life is mixed, and you can access anything from anywhere. It’s a pretty big challenge.

Gardner: Even though there are so many different types of threats, internal, external, and so forth, one of the common things that we can do nowadays is get data to learn more about what we have as part of our inventory of important assets.

While we might not be able to seal off that perimeter, maybe we can limit the damage that takes place by early detection of problems. The earlier that an organization can detect that something is going on that shouldn’t be, the quicker they can come to the rescue. Let’s look at how the instant analysis of data plays a role in limiting negative outcomes.

Can't protect everything

Brown: If you want to protect something, you have to know it’s sensitive and that you want to protect it. You can’t protect everything. You're going to find which data is sensitive, and we're able to do that on-the-fly to recognize sensitive data and nonsensitive data. That’s a key part of the DLP puzzle, the data protection puzzle.

We work for some pretty large organizations, some of the largest companies and government organizations in the world, as well as lot of medium- and smaller-sized customers. Whatever it is we're trying to protect, personal information or indeed the IP, we need to be in the right place to see what people are doing with that data.

Our solution consists of two main types of agents. Some agents are on endpoint computers, which could be desktops or servers, Windows, Linux, and Macintosh. It’s a good place to be on the endpoint computer, because that’s where people, particularly the insider, come into play and start doing something with data. That’s where people work. That’s how they come into the network and it’s how they handle a business process.

So the challenge in DLP is to support the business process. Let people do with data what they need to do, but don’t let that data get out. The way to do that is to be in the right place. I already mentioned the endpoint agent, but we also have network agents, sensors, and appliances in the network that can look at data moving around.

The endpoint is really in the middle of the business process. Someone is working, they're working with different applications, getting data out of those applications, and they're doing whatever they need to do in their daily work. That’s where we sit, right in the middle of that, and we can see who the user is and what application they're working with it. It could be an engineer working with the computer-aided design (CAD) or the product lifecycle management (PLM) system developing some new automobile or whatever, and that’s a great place to be.

We rely very heavily on the HPE IDOL technology for helping us classify data. We use it particularly for structured data, anything like a credit card number, or alphanumeric data. It could be also free text about healthcare, patient information, and all this sort of stuff.

We use IDOL to help us scan documents. We can recognize regular expressions, that’s a credit card number type of thing, or Social Security. We can also recognize terminology. We rely on the fact that IDOL supports hundreds of languages and many different subject areas. So, using IDOL, we're able to recognize a whole lot of anything that’s written in textual language.

Our endpoint agent also has some of its own intelligence built in that we put on top of what we call contextual recognition or contextual classification. As I said, we see the customer list coming out of Salesforce.com or we see the jet fighter design coming out of the PLM system and we then tag that as well. We're using IDOL, we're using some of our technology, and we're using our vantage point on the endpoint being in the business process to figure out what the data is.

We call that data-in-use monitoring and, once we see something is sensitive, we put a tag on it, and that tag travels with the data no matter where it goes.

An interesting thing is that if you have someone making a mistake, an unintentional, good-willed employee, accidentally attaching the wrong doc to something that it goes out, obviously it will warn the user of that.

We can stop that

If you have someone who is very, very malicious and is trying to obfuscate what they're doing, we can see that as well. For example, taking a screenshot of some top-secret diagram, embedding that in a PowerPoint and then encrypting the PowerPoint, we're tagging those docs. Anything that results from IP or top-secret information, we keep tagging that. When the guy then goes to put it on a thumb drive, put it on Dropbox, or whatever, we see that and stop that.

So that’s still a part of the problem, but the two points are classify it, that’s what we rely on IDOL a lot for, and then stop it from going out, that’s what our agent is responsible for.

Gardner: Let’s talk a little bit about the results here, when behaviors, people and the organization are brought to bear together with technology, because it’s people, process and technology. When it becomes known in the organization that you can do this, I should think that that must be a fairly important step. How do we measure effectiveness when you start using a technology like Digital Guardian? Where does that become explained and known in the organization and what impact does that have?

Brown: Our whole approach is a risk-based approach and it’s based on visibility. You’ve got to be able to see the problem and then you can take steps and exercise control to stop the problems.
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When you deploy our solution, you immediately gain a lot of visibility. I mentioned the endpoints and I mentioned the network. Basically, you get a snapshot without deploying any rules or configuring in any complex way. You just turn this on and you suddenly get this rich visibility, which is manifested in reports, trends, and all this stuff. What you get, after a very short period of time, is a set of reports that tell you what your risks are, and some of those risks may be that your HR information is being put on Dropbox.

You have engineers putting the source code onto thumb drives. It could all be well-meaning, they want to work on it at home or whatever, or it could be some bad guy.

One the biggest points of risk in any company is when an employee resigns and decides to move on. A lot of our customers use the monitoring and the reporting we have at that time to actually sit down with the employee and say, "We noticed that you downloaded 2,000 files and put them on a thumb drive. We’d like you to sign this saying that you're going to give us that data back."

That’s a typical use case, and that’s the visibility you get. You turn it on and you suddenly see all these risks, hopefully, not too many, but a certain number of risks and then you decide what you're going to do about it. In some areas you might want to be very draconian and say, "I'm not going to allow this. I'm going to completely block this. There is no reason why you should put the jet fighter design up on Dropbox."

Gardner: That’s where the epoxy in the USB drives comes in.

Warning people

Brown: Pretty much. On the other hand, you don’t want to stop people using USB, because it’s about their productivity, etc. So, you might want to warn people, if you're putting some financial data on to a thumb drive, we're going to encrypt that so nothing can happen to it, but do you really want to do this? Is this approach appropriate? People get a feeling that they're being monitored and that the way they are acting maybe isn't according to company policy. So, they'll back out of it.

In a nutshell, you look at the status quo, you put some controls in place, and after those controls are in place, within the space of a week, you suddenly see the risk posture changing, getting better, and the incidence of these dangerous actions dropping dramatically.

Very quickly, you can measure the security return on investment (ROI) in terms of people’s behavior and what’s happening. Our customers use that a lot internally to justify what they're doing.

Generally, you can get rid of a very large amount of the risk, say 90 percent, with an initial pass, or initial first two passes of rules to say, we don’t want this, we don’t want that. Then, you're monitoring the status, and suddenly, new things will happen. People discover new ways of doing things, and then you’ve got to put some controls in place, but you're pretty quickly up into the 90 percent and then you fine-tuning to get those last little bits of risk out.

Gardner: Because organizations are becoming increasingly data-driven, they're getting information and insight across their systems and their applications. Now, you're providing them with another data set that they could use. Is there some way that organizations are beginning to assimilate and analyze multiple data sets including what Digital Guardian’s agents are providing them in order to have even better analytics on what’s going on or how to prevent unpleasant activities?

Brown: In this security world, you have the security operations center (SOC), which is kind of the nerve center where everything to do with security comes into play. The main piece of technology in that area is the security information and event management (SIEM) technology. The market leader is HPE’s ArcSight, and that’s really where all of the many tools that security organizations use come together in one console, where all of that information can be looked at in a central place and can also be correlated.

We provide a lot of really interesting information for the SIEM for the SOC. I already mentioned we're on the endpoint and the network, particularly on the endpoint. That’s a bit of a blind spot for a lot of security organizations. They're traditionally looking at firewalls, other network devices, and this kind of stuff.

We provide rich information about the user, about the data, what’s going on with the data, and what’s going on with the system on the endpoint. That’s key for detecting malware, etc. We have all this rich visibility on the endpoint and also from the network. We actually pre-correlate that. We have our own correlation rules. On the endpoint computer in real time, we're correlating stuff. All of that gets populated into ArcSight.

At the HPE Protect Show in National Harbor in September we showed the latest generation of our integration, which we're very excited about. We have a lot of ArcSight content, which helps people in the SOC leverage our data, and we gave a couple of presentations at the show on that.

Gardner: And is there a way to make this even more protected? I believe encryption could be brought to bear and it plays a role in how the SIEM can react and behave.

Seamless experience

Brown: We actually have a new partnership, related to HPE's acquisition of Voltage, which is a real leader in the e-mail security space. It’s all about applying encryption to messages and managing the keys and making that user experience very seamless and easy to use.

Adding to that, we're bundling up some of the classification functionality that we have in our network sensors. What we have is a combination between Digital Guardian Network, DOP, and the HPE Data Security Encryption solution, where an enterprise can define a whole bunch of rules based on templates.

We can say, "I need to comply with HIPAA," "I need to comply with PCI," or whatever standard it is. Digital Guardian on the network will automatically scan all the e-mail going out and automatically classify according to our rules which e-mails are sensitive and which attachments are sensitive. It then goes on to the HPE Data Security Solution where it gets encrypted automatically and then sent out.

It’s basically allowing corporations to apply standard set of policies, not relying on the user to say they need to encrypt this, not leaving it to the user’s judgment, but actually applying standard policies across the enterprise for all e-mail making sure they get encrypted. We are very excited about it.

Gardner: That sounds key -- using encryption to the best of its potential, being smart about it, not just across the waterfront, and then not depending on a voluntary encryption, but doing it based on need and intelligence.

Brown: Exactly.

Gardner: For those organizations that are increasingly trying to be data-driven, intelligent, taking advantage of the technologies and doing analysis in new interesting ways, what advice might you offer in the realm of security? Clearly, we’ve heard at various conferences and other places that security is, in a sense, the killer application of big-data analytics. If you're an organization seeking to be more data-driven, how can you best use that to improve your security posture?

Brown: The key, as far as we’re concerned, is that you have to watch your data, you have to understand your data, you need to collect information, and you need visibility of your data.

The other key point is that the security market has been shifting pretty dramatically from more of a network view much more toward the endpoint. I mentioned earlier that antivirus and some of these standard technologies on the endpoint aren't really cutting it anymore. So, it’s very important that you get visibility down at the endpoint and you need to see what users are doing, you need to understand what your systems are running, and you need to understand where your data is.

So collect that, get that visibility, and then leverage that visibility with analytics and tools so that you can profit from an automated kind of intelligence.
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Gardner: I'm afraid we will have to leave it there. We’ve been exploring how cybersecurity attacks are on the rise but new capabilities are being brought to the edge to provide for better DLP. And we’ve learned how Digital Guardian uses HPE’s IDOL to analyze structured data and predict and prevent loss of information intellectual property with increased accuracy.

So please join me in thanking Marcus Brown, Vice President of Corporate Business Development for Digital Guardian in Waltham, Massachusetts.

Brown: Thank you.

Gardner: And a big thank you as well to our audience for joining us for this Hewlett Packard Enterprise Voice of the Customer digital transformation discussion.

I'm Dana Gardner, Principal Analyst at Interarbor Solutions, your host for this ongoing series of HPE-sponsored interviews. Thanks again for listening, and please come back next time.

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